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overreved
05-04-2007, 02:57 PM
I've had my 5 speed 113 for about 4 years now, and although I knew it was somewhat rare, I've never come across another anywhere on the web other than in Europe. Does anyone know just how rare it is?
JimVillers
05-04-2007, 08:32 PM
According to Michael Egan in a "Mercedes Clasics" article, there were 533 ZF 5-speed transmissions intstalled in 230SL/250SL and 350 installed in the 280SL. Rare but available.
overreved
05-05-2007, 10:07 AM
One post and I find someone with a 5 speed 113. Great car right? I love mine.
Steve
JimVillers
05-05-2007, 12:02 PM
Steve .... There are quite a few ZF 5-speeds around. Visit the Pagoda SL Group (http://sl113.org/home.asp) and you will find more.
JPMose
05-14-2007, 07:19 PM
Is it true that the majority of parts are no longer available for the 5 speed gear box? I seem to recall reading this on the Pagoda site, which of course is an important factor when looking for a used one!
JimVillers
05-15-2007, 07:09 PM
JP .... There are "NO" parts available for the ZF 5-speed. The bearings are generic but everything else is just not available. The eBay cost of a used transmission is about $5K, they come up every so often.
bill streep
05-16-2007, 09:02 AM
Jim, beyond rarity, what does the 5 speed buy you?
zak
05-16-2007, 03:58 PM
Lower RPM's at hiway speed and with it reduced noise of engine and fuel savings.
Lower RPM's also results in less engine wear.
I wonder what the rpm difference is between the 4 and 4 spd trans at 80 MPH?
Is it 500 prm's ?
zak
05-21-2007, 02:47 PM
Sorry, tipo. I meant difference between 4 and 5 spd trans.
JimVillers
05-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Zac .... The final gear ration of fifth gear is 0.89 so it reduces the cruising RPM about by about 500.
macntex@yahoo.c
07-08-2007, 06:33 PM
just out of curiosity, is there any other 5-speed transmission, besides the ZF, that can be installed?
rwmastel
07-09-2007, 02:08 PM
According to Michael Egan in a "Mercedes Clasics" article, there were 533 ZF 5-speed transmissions intstalled in 230SL/250SL and 350 installed in the 280SL. Rare but available.Michael Egan plans to attend the Pagoda SL Group's Tech Session. Come to Ohio and see several 5-speed cars in person!
http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=20758